How much time should Donald Trump receive for his conviction in New York for falsifying business records?
What about Hunter Biden in Delaware for being an addict in possession of a firearm?
Both should get probation.
After all, both are first time, non-violent offenders. And there were no victims in either case.
But I suspect both will get some jail time.
I'm setting the over under at 6 months in each case.
What would you do if you were the judge and what do you predict they will actually receive?
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Hunter should get guidelines. I heard somewhere the number 20 months being thrown around. That is fine.
Don’t know whether New York has guidelines or not and what they take into account, but if it was a federal case, Trump would be looking at time on them. 3 years seems about right to me given his obstruction and behavior. Absent that, probation may not be wrong. Trump is not a first time offender either, and the conduct he was convicted of - lying to try and commit election fraud in a presidential election is quite serious.
You and the media are doing a disservice by harping on no jail/first time offender bs. The guy was as obstructionist and as abusive as any criminal defendant I have ever seen. If he was anybody else, he would have been siting in jail pretrial, and he should have been. He has already gotten huge breaks and special treatment. That should end. And, he should be remanded at sentencing. Let scotus bail him out on some sort of presidential candidate immunity bullshit ruling.
If you're talking about business as usual, 5:19 gets it right.
If you're talking about the way things should be (for everyone and not just these two high profile convicts), DOM is right.
Just depends on what your point of view is, I guess.
9:14 is right - but shouldn't it be business as usual for these two? Why do they deserve to be the vanguard cases for reform of the justice system? You want to start cutting people breaks (or treating them fairly depending on your point of view), how about starting with minority clients of the FPD, not two rich privileged guys.
Also, the contrast in how each defendant, and those around them, are dealing with the convictions could not be more stark....Hunter actually has some contrition and hasn't tried to burn the system down.
President Trump should get 4 years of community service, to be served at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue (commencing January 20, 2025).
Good one.
How funny would it be if the judge did impose community service and specified that it could be fulfilled in that manner. Gold.
Of course, we would all be fucked as a country, but it would be funny and we could all smile a little as our civil rights are degraded (except gun rights).
Send the orange turd to Rikers.
Send 1:07 to guantanamo.
There’s no such thing as a trial tax. Which is why the state asked for the maximum of 15 years after a guilty verdict for manslaughter for a first offender for Pablo Lyle. I saw the sentencing. Asa Shawn Abahoff did it with a straight face.
Of course rich white collar defendants rarely ever go to jail... which is part of why they do what they do... judges hate to send folks that look like them (or gave them money) to jail!
What's wrong with ten days? Long enough to sting, short enough not to cripple.
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