How much should a cop have to pay for illegally spying on you?
Yesterday, a jury said $15,000. Here’s Paula McMahon:
A South Florida police officer owes $15,000 in damages to a Broward County couple she illegally snooped on 167 times in two years, jurors decided Tuesday.
Pembroke Pines Police Officer Melodie Carpio admitted she broke the law and used her job to look up information about the couple — her boyfriend’s ex-wife and her new husband — on confidential law enforcement databases.
Carpio, a 41-year-old patrol officer, is personally liable to pay the civil judgment to Cindy Thibault and Claude Letourneau. She will also owe significantly more in legal fees to the attorneys for the victims and her defense.
The couple smiled and looked relieved when jurors announced their verdict after a one-day trial in federal court in Miami. They declined to comment.
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12 comments:
I am pretty antagonistic towards cops, and tend to think that cops should have their feet held to the fire for any perceived abuse of power. But I don't like this at all. Did the plaintiffs suffer any actual harm? Probably not. The officer should probably be fired for misconduct, but the plaintiffs shouldn't be enriched. This seems like the plaintiffs received a windfall as part of an ugly family dispute. This result stinks.
How do you define actual harm? If I hack into your brokerage account to see how much money you have and how you spend your money, wouldn't you fee you've been harmed? What if I steal your credit card statements, just to snoop?
9:02am here. I would be angry, but I would not have been damaged. Me getting paid because you did that doesn't make sense. You should probably spend some time in jail for hacking my brokerage account or stealing my credit card statements.
I think 15k sounds about right, the fees are her fault for fighting. Could have made an offer of judgment to head those off. Needs to be accountability beyond just job consequences.
9:02 - but the payment is a form of punishment. Why should the taxpayers-in the form of the cost of incarceration - pay? I think a much better outcome is for the defendant to pay directly for her transgression.
this is 9:02am. The defendant could very well "pay" in the form of a fine. And as for why the tax payer should incur the cost - its because society has an interest in maintaining order. And the criminal penalty could include the cost of prosecution. Hell, in a case like this, a fine would be just fine (and probably getting fired too).
What is not correct is turning this into a potential windfall that encourages bullshit personal injury cases where no actual injury occurred.
9:02am again. Making this into a civil matter (as opposed to a criminal matter) harms me twice: first the harm you did to me, and second my forcing me to be the enforcement arm of the law at my expense and headache. When a cop, a public servant, abuses the power afforded to her, she has harmed society at large as well as the individual that she targeted. Society at large (i.e. the government) should address this problem.
Particularly where she wasn't even fired for the abuse; demonstrates lack of accountability through internal measures.
9:02 I see you now are agreed that the plaintiffs were harmed by the snooping. I'm glad we can agree to that.
But now you're arguing who should try to remedy the harm. I really can't see your argument that you are "harmed" by bringing a voluntary civil suit. You could advocate for internal discipline, a criminal sanction (where a monetary payment also may be imposed), or bring a civil case.
By voluntarily brining a civil case, a person is not "harmed."
If anything 15K is too little! Gimme a break 9:02!
9:02 sounds like a trumpist, tort reform asshole. Go eat another donut.
Obviously an emotionally charged case that elicits many opinions. Most of all, truly an honor to practice in front of someone as brilliant, insightful, and reasonable as Judge Huck. He's really just a thoughtful and impressive person.
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