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Tuesday, March 17, 2020
11th Circuit procedures for oral argument week of March 30
Two choices — submit on the papers or do it by phone. The panel is Carnes, Marcus, and Luck. Here’s the email that went out this morning (I have an argument on 4/2).
I'd rather the case be on the papers over oral argument anyway. Oral argument takes an extraordinary amount of preparation (i.e. billing to the client) for relatively little bang on that buck. If the judges read the briefing and the reviewed the record well, they know what they intend to do. If they didn't, a few short minutes of lawyer talk is a poor substitute and the judges shouldn't be given that out.
Kind of agree. An outline pointing to cases governing and record should be better. At least that way you know the judges would read the record and cases. Or perhaps, they will just kick it to the staff attorneys to write a kick in the balls pca affirmation that twists the record beyond recognition. 50/50 shot. Who is on the panel again?
I'd rather the case be on the papers over oral argument anyway. Oral argument takes an extraordinary amount of preparation (i.e. billing to the client) for relatively little bang on that buck. If the judges read the briefing and the reviewed the record well, they know what they intend to do. If they didn't, a few short minutes of lawyer talk is a poor substitute and the judges shouldn't be given that out.
ReplyDeleteKind of agree. An outline pointing to cases governing and record should be better. At least that way you know the judges would read the record and cases. Or perhaps, they will just kick it to the staff attorneys to write a kick in the balls pca affirmation that twists the record beyond recognition. 50/50 shot. Who is on the panel again?
ReplyDeletePanel is Ed Carnes, Robert Luck and Stanley Marcus. If you represent a civil plaintiff or a criminal defendant, I wish you luck.
ReplyDelete5:42 you could say that about just about any panel on the 11th. Unfortunately.
ReplyDeleteTrue, but this panel doesn't seem random at all.
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